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هناك خطر الاضطرار إلى استخدام القوة من الخارج ولكن ليس كتدخل عسكري كلاسيكي
بـرهـان غـلـيـون لـ«الـسفـيـر»: لا لبـنـنـة للـحــراك الـشـعـبـي
عـلـى الجـامـعــة الـعـربـيـة إشــراك الأمــم المتـحـدة فـي الحـل
There is a danger of having to use force abroad, but not a classic military intervention
Burhan Ghaliyoun for «al-Safir»: No Lebanonization mobility popular
The Arab League, United Nations involvement in the solution
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Muhammad Ballout
2011.11.11

Everything is subject to discussion with the President of the Syrian National Council (SNC) Burhan Ghaliyoun. Try to prevent the delegation from «the coordination» from entering the Arab League headquarters in Cairo, and pelted them with eggs from the supporters of the National Council has only detect known differences between them and the opposition «Coordination Body» at home «and and among them are historical fighters who spent long years in prison, and subjected to unacceptable unacceptable» says Ghaliyoun.

The incident shows that the Arab League members threw «coordination» eggs still suspect biased towards some members of the system. Compromised not only the rejection of the figures to join the National Council, and the Ghaliyoun came from himself to the Council, but the confusion raised by the text of the conference in «Hlpon» intention to overthrow authoritarian security system, without naming President Bashar al-Assad by name.

It is clear that the bitterness prevail supporters of the Council, because the Arab League does not take Pettmtheleh exclusive «National Council» mobility popular in Syria, a goal not achieved, it is still the Arab League put «the coordination» and «the Council» on an equal footing, in spite of what he says Radwan Ziadeh, representative of the Council in Washington, that the Council «is the sole legitimate representative of the real to the Syrian people», which reveals the difficulties faced by the Syrian opposition in organizing their differences, although they are still at the stage of throwing eggs, and before it reaches the stage of assuming the responsibilities of a legitimate and representative are real.

Ghaliyoun was seen as «personal opinion of Radwan Ziadeh, and not a position of the Council of Coordination Body». In connection with the assault, he said «The Council, which does not respect the right of freedom of difference and does not represent me».

In opposition to cling Burhan Ghaliyoun, Bslmah popular movement, and rejects the hypothesis slide towards the militarization of peaceful shield help him. Not «Lebanonization» People for the mobility, and the phenomenon of sectarian liquidations, and kidnappings on the risk of identity must be countered at any cost, and our motto sectarian and national betrayal, has been «initiated intelligence and Cbihh it to sink mobility in battle is not unrelated to the». The Arab initiative, have exploited the system to fight a battle against the Baba Amr in Homs and gain time, and the intensification of arrests.

The Ghaliyoun is expected, in an interview with «al-Safir», to go the Arab League to engage the United Nations in the international Arab initiative, beyond the obstacle Russian veto in the UN Security Council to adopt a resolution to protect civilians from the Syrian daily killing.

Ghaliyoun propose to the Arab League, a way out for failing to Syria. It shall promote international support for its initiative after the expiration of the implementation without the Syrian regime to meet its conditions. What the future?

{«The Arab League should begin immediately in consultation with the United Nations to take joint action. Have to convert them to an international Arab initiative. It should expand to the international community to demand the resignation of Bashar al-Assad to open up the possibility of serious negotiations. We do not want to move from the solution the solution to the Arab World, we want a solution internationally Arab, Arab and international partnerships to stop the killings. Syria and the freezing of membership in the university must be the beginning. University receive our reports on violations of the system and see that it is their responsibility to declare that the system used at the time the initiative, to commit his crimes described in Baba Amr, and divert attention from the extraordinary escalation in Homs ».

Despite the rising voices of members of the Council in Washington, and others, asserts that the modern Ghaliyoun belonging to the Council on military intervention is a personal opinion and not the position of the Council, «external intervention is not an option, do not we nor the international community. The only option, is to protect civilians. Our plan is not foreign countries come to decide the future of the Syrian people. What we want is to stop a machine that prevent the repression of the Syrian people and their right to self-determination freely, so stick to the idea of ​​civil protection ». Unlike the international resolution of the Security Council on Libya, which allowed for broad interpretation of the Western military intervention, Ghaliyoun tends towards the demarcation of the resolution, which wants to stop such a permit and its impact upon protection and no more, and put his limits and milestones. And explains the mechanism taken as «no value for any decision not based on the Charter of the United Nations, and dictate to the Syrian state and the duty to protect its citizens. It prevents prejudice to the sovereignty of States, except in the case of perpetration of crimes against humanity ». The international committees and the UN, and NGOs to collect evidence and documents that pave the way toward «the Security Council's recognition of the Syrian regime of committing such crimes. We want to take this decision without invalidate the principle of State sovereignty ».

Is not that the beginning of a military intervention, and how can be imposed to protect civilians without a military deterrent force? Ghaliyoun is «There is certainly a risk of having to use force, but not military intervention, but as a measure agreed upon by all parties to the opposition and international parties, according to the national interests of the Syrian decision to apply the protection of civilians. The system is the one who decides in fact, military intervention or not, by stopping the killings condemned by the international community or to continue it, despite the threat of using force, and is likely to stop the oppression, murder and negotiate a mechanism for the implementation of the resolution if he felt a threat to him, and if not stop, it is certain that we will go to a form of use of force against the regime, not related to the concept of military intervention classic ».

It is believed that the Ghaliyoun consensus on an existing claim the protection of civilians in all ranks of the opposition forces, the National Council of the coordinating body, Aftiar State. He says «A large part of the Syrian public opinion is no longer object to the presence of international protection, and request that imposed by force, not a condition beyond the control of the opposition, and not being manipulated». And adds «I think that a large part, not only from the Syrians, but of the Arabs, too, wishes salvation quickly from irrational violence, which may last for months. A majority no longer tolerate the daily killing of the breakdown of all seams ».

^ «Accept any opposition to debate with the system in light of the continued killing?» Question of the Ghaliyoun. Any party to negotiate the system will lose credibility in the light of the high daily death toll?

{«Yes, certainly if you go to any dialogue table in such an atmosphere, where Esicrs system, and kills without an account, was carried out under the umbrella of the initiative is a war against the Pope Amr, in Hims. Any opposition would accept a dialogue? In such circumstances one would not go at all to any dialogue with the regime, or negotiate with the system as a lion. No dialogue with the system because when you say a dialogue, this means the settlement. There is no opposition, not inside or outside of the National Council, will accept. Or compromising on the principles and goals of the revolution. Opposition was only willing to negotiate the transition to the transfer of power to a democratic system and the other is not. If the system thinks that the goal of negotiation is to renew its legitimacy, he is dreaming, and living in another world ».

^ Not dreaming of you too. Do you think it is reasonable to Afawdkm system to deliver power and walking?

{«We do not want to receive power, we want to hand over power to the people, otherwise why the revolution? Intended to hand over power to the people, and restore the usurped him in four decades. People are dying for it, not because they are hungry, or for a bit of bread. Hungry people than in the past, but they die because they do not want to fret after a day ».

But the Syrian authorities say those who invite them to implement the Arab initiative, and start a dialogue with the opposition to insurgent violence against the army did not stop, could double if he returned to the army barracks, you will not be withdrawn in the light of the continued attacks against him?

This argument does not convince the Ghaliyoun «because the authorities since the frequency of 8 months, and it is reasonable to accept the arguments rejected by the Arab League, even if the university accepted the arguments of the system of armed gangs, it is to submit its initiative, it was incumbent upon them to help the Arab forces required such terrorist gangs and foreign conspiracy ».

The «system is the creation of the army Azahrh free when pushing the army in the task of suppressing the people instead of protection, and such a problem does not solve the murder of dissident soldiers who refused to kill their fellow citizens, but resolved to negotiate. One of the most important point of negotiation is the issue of the army free, and dissidents from the Syrian army. The dissent does not give the authoritarian regime of the right to kill them ».

^ Is there an organic relationship with the regulatory or «Free Army» numerous Ghaliyoun, which is estimated between 10 to 13 thousand troops, and is expected to expand and grow in the coming days?

«No one in opposition, not in the National Council or otherwise, wants to own an armed arm. No one can claim control of the events or the leadership of these elements, and this is not our project. Do not intend to create any armed arm, just want to convince (the commander of the army free) Riad Al-Assaad, the army deployed in the free cities, sufficient to protect the peaceful demonstrations ».

^ But do you talk to them?

{«We are telling them to beware, we do not want civil war, Syria does not want an army in the face of another Syrian army».

^ Does this mean that their links bring you when you say you do not you control them, but you are asking of them, however, guard the demonstrations?

{«Are part of our people, and today from the opposition, and will not abandon them, and we will seek to protect them, but we do not want to slip into a war to Syria Syria also believe that their brothers in the army will not Ikhzlohm or let down the people. But we seek to convince them to abide by the general strategy of the revolution, the opposition and coordination with them, and what we ask of them now is the adherence to the task of protecting the demonstrations ».

^ Not carry that army Nmair sliding popular movement toward more militarization?

{«Versa. We cannot free to leave the army without framing a political, not leave them without help and put them to the manipulation of the international and regional organizations. Fear them if left alone without the aid and political leadership to be involved, and implicate the country side in the conflicts we are the strongest by the rich. I do not think that there is a danger to the uprising. And the possibility of militarized due to the folly of power and strategy that prompted the military to split, and the people to arms ».

^ Are you a country or other countries of arming these items?

{«Talking about reinforcement?».

^ Qatar has sent special forces to Libya, which intervened as well as coalitions and alliances arise about the Arab spring?

{«For me it is forbidden to put the parties to the Syrian army and face to face, because we reject the absolute refusal of the civil war».

Do not fear any of the Ghaliyoun «Lebanonization» mobility popular. He says «not a sectarian conflict in some Baqrnh Weather qualifying religious, or to target neighborhoods with a majority of one color. The top Sunni differences, and kidnapping, which occurred caused little intelligence ».

^ Do you trust the Burhan Ghaliyoun and the French and the Americans who declare their support of the National Council and the Syrian opposition?

{«I do not trust anyone. However, I do not trust the Syrian people alone. The people want freedom from the system, has been tasked to mobilize political opposition to international efforts to achieve this goal. We contacted the Arabs, and Americans, Asians and Russians, both for ourselves and put in one basket, and if the Iranians want to help in the liberation of Syria would not mind to meet them. Not a decision we have to take Syria to the alliance or the other. Our decision is to collect all the efforts to liberate our people from the murderous junta ».

^ Not to raise doubts you have and Qatar in the presence of all the tracks on the Syrian issue, the meetings of the Presidency of the Doha Arab Ministerial Committee, to the role of the media channel «island». Are you a national council last country under the trusteeship of the Council after Libya?

{«Not at all, and no country ever tutelage. It is clear, for Qataris active diplomacy does not stop us, but also include areas with Arab, regional crises, in Libya, Sudan and Lebanon, in the recent past ».

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